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Piccolo (Pre-Nail merging) vs Captain Ginyu
Topic Started: May 30 2016, 03:19 PM (1,238 Views)
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Hm? I said power gains aren't consistent and you extrapolated it into a giant strawberry. I don't understand, man.
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If power gains aren't consistent, its a flaw attributed to the series.

By sugar-coating blatantly illogical scene/scenario by using multipliers/digits/power chains etc you're apparently making a mountain out of a mole

I flat-out pointed how Piccolo's disposable stature in former 2 Arcs & sudden leap/gain WITHOUT Nail's merging/fusion to be illogical

Dats the truth. Its right in front your eyes. You said it yourself. Inconsistent

But then you're supposed to join this bandwagon that accepts whatever thrown/spit at without even thinking HOW it can take place in the 1st place.

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It's obvious that Piccolo is actually that strong though. You can't throw out statements directly from the manga just because it doesn't make sense to ya.

We get told that in the time between Piccolo dying and him being revived, he increases his power exponentially. You can't get any more direct than two statements from two different characters flat-out telling ya that.
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It sounds like you're upset with how a character is portrayed as "weak" in one part of the story and suddenly rises to being "strong" in another (even though he was still irrelevant at the time). I'm not on any bandwagon, though if this is how you rationalize my mindset, feel free. I simply don't mistake the words of another character when describing Piccolo's power.
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It really depends whether you think Piccolo would REALLY take on 1st form Freeza like he thought he could.
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He couldn't. He figured Freeza was probably 2-3x Vegeta's strength, not a monstrous 30x. Once he got to Namek and sensed Freeza's suppressed power, he knew he was dirt.
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May 30 2016, 05:43 PM
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May 30 2016, 05:37 PM
Piccolo stomps with ease. It was stated that merging with God could let him beat First Form Freeza, and the boost from that is most likely 2x.
Only problem is topic is about Piccolo (pre-Nail fusion) & your talking abt Piccolo/Kami fusion

But yeah. Its explicitly stated Nameless Namekian could win against Saiyans & Frieza

But Piccolo WITHOUT Kami or Nail fusion is as good as dead. At least from what we've seen throughout the series (Saiyan~Boo Arc)
I know. What I'm saying is that doubling Piccolo's strength would put him at least equal to First Form Freeza, which means Piccolo's strength before any fusions is at least 265,000.
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May 30 2016, 04:39 PM
Piccolo thought he could help against 1st form frieza, so I usually have him at 200 000. He wins
This was before he even knew how powerful Freeza was. When he arrived on Namek, he was flabbergasted by Freeza's strength, and this was before he powered up against Vegeta.

Anyway, I personally give Piccolo a battle power of 72,000, so no, I don't think he can handle Ginyu, but he can handle all 4 other members of the Ginyu Force.
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If only King Kai had bothered to teach Piccolo some actual techniques. Being able to use the Kaioken could have helped tremendously. He may not have needed Nail to fight Frieza in his suppressed forms, though it would be foolish of him to deny such an incredible boost to his base power level.

Topic question - I think Piccolo wins since he's over 200,000 for me.
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piccolo most likely piccolo when he came back imo would have a power lv about 150-200 000
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I have Piccolo at 200.000 at this point or at the very least 150.000 he beats Ginyu easily, he's more skilled more techniques regeneration (if need be) and a higher power level.

Ginyu needs a body change :p .
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May 31 2016, 07:41 AM
If only King Kai had bothered to teach Piccolo some actual techniques. Being able to use the Kaioken could have helped tremendously. He may not have needed Nail to fight Frieza in his suppressed forms, though it would be foolish of him to deny such an incredible boost to his base power level.

Topic question - I think Piccolo wins since he's over 200,000 for me.
Yeah, I always wondered why Kai never taught the others about the Genki Dama or the Kaioken.
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